Innovator Susant Pattnaik on how to impact your local community (11-09-2016)

Susant Pattnaik talks about how he wants to tackle local challenges and what the future will bring if a next generation starts innovating

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When and where did your scientific career start? (00:00:00)
What came after your first invention? (00:12:52)
Define the uniqueness of your work? (00:16:21)
You've created anti-rape wearables for women. Why are they a success? (00:17:56)
Have you found a niche in the market? (00:23:15)
Where did you get the knowledge from? (00:25:01)
What ideas did you have as for starters? (00:28:03)
Why did you receive numerous awards? (00:30:00)
What specific innovations got awarded? (00:31:51)
In what way do local challenges inspire you? (00:34:49)
In what way is meditations helping you finding solutions? (00:35:53)
What happens inside your head when you're meditating? (00:38:09)
What will you have reached in 5 - 10 years? (00:40:51)
The last 8 years, how did you earn your money? (00:42:33)
What kind of awards did you receive? (00:44:30)
Could you elaborate more on these awards? (00:45:54)
Why doesn't India simply import these innovations? (00:49:38)
What was in your opinion the uniqueness of the wheel chair innovation? (00:53:34)
How many disabled people are using the wheel chair you designed? (00:54:52)
Who are your heroes? (00:55:35)
What makes you a visionary innovator? (00:57:22)
Why are you in the eyes of other people a visionary innovator? (00:59:18)
Tell me something about your big example? (00:59:59)
What kind of problems do you encounter in India? (01:01:06)
What makes what you invent more unique than what already exist? (01:01:58)
How does a basic lab produce some of the worlds newest innovation? (01:03:04)
What is the upside from working in an accessible lab like a 'fablab'? (01:05:02)
You talk like you're person with lot of experience, but you are only 24 years old... (01:06:22)
What makes you a succesful young innovator? (01:07:32)
What's for you a magic word? (01:09:44)
Are you a maker? (01:11:13)
What is the difference between innovating for the Indian and other markets? (01:12:45)
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Where did it start for you when you are now 24, 25, 24? So where did it start?
00:00:08 Speaker 2: I was starting in my fifth standard. At my age you can say around eight or nine, something.
00:00:15 My father used to give to me some of the remote control control toy cars. Unlike other kids, I like to play with it.
00:00:24 I like to play and try to enjoy it and get happiness through it. But personal this haunts me that why?
00:00:32 Why it is working like this? I always keep asking myself, why? Where? What? Where? When?
00:00:39 I keep on asking such questions that keeps
00:00:40 Speaker 2: [INAUDIBLE] in my mind.
00:00:44 So because I had been taught in my first standard
00:00:46 or second standard in my early childhood days that current flows from battery to the model through a wire
00:00:48 and through a switch. If you activate the switch the current flows from the battery to the model.
00:00:58 But here the [INAUDIBLE] remote control car, there's a remote there's a car. There's no wires only antennas.
00:01:04 How the current is flowing? So that was really curious for me.
00:01:08 And in the beginning I got shocked, that why it is happening?.
00:01:12 It might be some ghost might have entered inside the car because I used to watch like ghost movies [INAUDIBLE]
00:01:19 That's why it is working in that way.
00:01:24 And after two days or three days, I tried to explore that how this ghost exactly looks like. So I thought that.
00:01:31 And I know that to hack any smaller maybe [INAUDIBLE] gadgets, one small instrument is required and that is a tester.
00:01:39 Small screwdriver, I just got somewhere,and just untighten the screws. Open the box, and said wow.
00:01:45 That was a really interesting thing for me which really attracted me
00:01:48 and created a passion towards me towards technology and gadgets.
00:01:53 So I just saw, I just explored, I just pulled out the circuit, and I just saw and wow.
00:01:59 That is something which I was expecting. So I just, after my expectations for I'm glad, I'm satisfied that, yes.
00:02:13 And then finally I tried to place it back, put back the cover of the car, I just tightened the screw.
00:02:17 And I tried to switch on the remote.
00:02:19 So yeah, one day I was in my home, and my parents were out for the shopping and
00:02:27 when I was 11 my mind kept exploring kept wondering what next to do.
00:02:30 Other kids in other activity but I was noticed in hacking gadgets and on, that was my passion from my childhood.
00:02:40 So I saw now what to hack, one to have. My father stopped giving me and he kind of such toys, but now what to hack?
00:02:46 So one television, one TV, and that television fascinated me,
00:02:50 that was what that would be because in the small toy car there was electric circuit.
00:02:57 So how big that electric circuit would be, in that box type TV.
00:03:08 And those days we don't do have LCD type TVs because at least a couple of, 10 to 15 years back,.
00:03:10 we used to have that big box type TV and it has a [INAUDIBLE] That that we used to have those days.
00:03:22 So I assumed it was that. I know just to hack those gadgets, one small instrument is required and that is tester.
00:03:28 I just got it from somewhere and again I untightened the screw. When I just opened the box I said wow.
00:03:35 That was really for me. I like I just. Exclaimed that, wow.
00:03:41 This is something general, I got like something a treasury, this is a treasure for me.
00:03:46 Then I just, I just, like, I'm collecting all the golds and diamonds, but it wasn't really gold and diamonds for me.
00:03:56 I am all the circuits and I'm just pulling all the circuits and wires and everything and [INAUDIBLE] I got a shock.
00:04:02 I just checked that the power was off [INAUDIBLE]
00:04:05 realized because I don't during that time I didn't have any electronics knowledge.
00:04:14 [INAUDIBLE] So [INAUDIBLE] that was a capacitor which holds.
00:04:21 And [INAUDIBLE] subtracting [INAUDIBLE] experience, I mean [INAUDIBLE] knowledge.
00:04:25 So, I'm wondering, I just got completely lost in that circuit.
00:04:32 I'm just completely excited, I was completely passionate towards that one [INAUDIBLE] and everything.
00:04:38 I was completely involved in that. Then the start of I heard a beep sound.
00:04:43 I just stopped what I was doing just peeped through the window and I saw my parents came.
00:04:49 Without wasting a single time I just packed all the circuits and all the wires as fast as possible.
00:04:56 I just put back the box, back in the screw, jump to the bed holding the book upside down. [SOUND] And parents came in.
00:05:06 Then my father. Something is not common. Something I notice my kid has done.
00:05:12 I just see that he's holding the book upside down. Something notorious activity he has done.
00:05:18 Let's see what he has done. So my father, just forgetting everything, just asked for the dinner.
00:05:19 Cuz that was around late night, around 10 PM you can say. So my mom dinner later on, first the.
00:05:25 Because Indians are more into daily soaps and on.
00:05:26 Indian normally more into daily soaps and also my mom can skip dinner, can't skip that's what in their sasbo reels,
00:05:43 that daily soap serials. So first that, so my mom just relaxed on her bed.
00:05:49 Power on the plug of the TV, put the remote [INAUDIBLE] press the power button.
00:06:04 [SOUND] One corner of my house was on fire. All my neighbors, all my relatives, they're bringing the sand and water.
00:06:06 I was like yes I did it. I am the scientist yes I did it. I just screamed like anything, yes I did it.
00:06:14 I'm the scientist.
00:06:15 Because that time I had the knowledge that the person who does something or pressing something it blasted.
00:06:22 Then you've got a scientist.
00:06:24 I knew that was the meaning of a scientist when I was a kid so I was screaming like anything.
00:06:30 And then all my parents, all my relatives, all the neighbors they came to me.
00:06:35 I thought they were coming to applaud me what I have done.
00:06:37 But that applaud was in such a way that my stomach was completely filled with all the scoldings, all the screamings,
00:06:45 whatever they can do. So my dinner was completely done that day.
00:06:50 And from that day onwards, I was kept away from all the circuits, all the gadgets.
00:06:56 Everything even after a few days even if you come to my neighbors, any of the neighboring house and say [INAUDIBLE]
00:07:11 is coming to your home. And they'll first keep aside the gadgets [INAUDIBLE] something's coming. Hacking of the gadget.
00:07:18 So away from him. So that was when I was [INAUDIBLE] passion towards technology and all.
00:07:25 But gradually my passion towards innovation happen by an accident you can say.
00:07:32 Because I never thought that I should make an innovation.
00:07:33 I was fascinated and I was passionate towards technology, gadgets and all. But then when the innovation is an accident.,
00:07:40 And that happens in the, with that.,
00:07:43 When I was in my [INAUDIBLE] when I was 16 years old, I had gone to the hospital with my father.
00:07:51 I mean my father generally used to have high blood pressure and he goes for a weekly check-up.
00:07:55 So one day I accompanied him to the hospital and the clinic you can say, not a hospital.
00:08:01 It's more [INAUDIBLE] type of clinic and my father just entered inside the [INAUDIBLE] and I waited outside..
00:08:08 So after those few minutes I saw that my eyes [INAUDIBLE] Because of the old age his hands
00:08:20 and movements were restricted and paralysis might have happened for that.
00:08:23 So I was seeing that he was sitting on a wheelchair and then he was being assisted by a nurse all the time from here,
00:08:30 there. So I was just observing what was happening.
00:08:34 And I just found that the person was not able to speak because later I came to know that 70% of disabled people lose
00:08:45 their vocal power because of that paralysis, spinal injury, a little spinal inactiveness.
00:08:48 I mean this [INAUDIBLE] happen so I saw that he was not able to express what he exactly wants..
00:08:55 He was slightly able to raise his hands but not able to express [INAUDIBLE] So he was slightly with his hand
00:09:04 or he might be require water or something. So I handed him a glass of water and he just threw it down.
00:09:15 He want something else. So seeing that really hurts me. I just put myself in that position.
00:09:18 That if someone's brain was working everything working but due to body inactiveness.
00:09:24 [INAUDIBLE] are not able to speak to express. How painful that situation is..
00:09:38 [INAUDIBLE] If I am at least able to improve that life even 1% I will feel more [INAUDIBLE] I was happy
00:09:52 and I was satisfied. At least empower one person. I brought impact in their life.
00:10:00 I just empower the life even one person, I'll be more than happy.
00:10:01 So I just came back to my home and keep on thinking that what kind of so that they can do everything like normal humans.
00:10:13 I just kept thinking and thinking and thinking.
00:10:16 And I finally come to the conclusion that to do something I should figure out what's the common thing to do in a normal
00:10:24 human and a disabled person. I found that brain is common. Only to thinking to other things is not that user friendly.
00:10:36 Everything has a point to the person who will be using that invention..
00:10:40 [INAUDIBLE] multiple things is very difficult because what we think exactly we don't act.
00:10:49 I want to move my hand in this way. Think to move the hand in this way and I command my hand to move in this way.
00:11:02 [INAUDIBLE] So that is the control.
00:11:12 So next interesting thing that I found which is common and which is not parallelized.
00:11:13 Which is common that is breathing. [INAUDIBLE] becomes uncommon like paralysis in a normal human.
00:11:14 All the breathing is not [INAUDIBLE] which is common and which is [INAUDIBLE] properly.
00:11:16 With a normal human and a disabled person. And [INAUDIBLE] control normal breathing.
00:11:20 [INAUDIBLE] Model or technology concern. It's small gadget which converts breathing [INAUDIBLE] to magnetic impulse.
00:11:20 Speaker 2: And it designed in such a way that this acts as a single switch to multiple switch options.
00:11:44 Again we also [INAUDIBLE] of [INAUDIBLE] scrolling. That the future to make forward, left, right movement..
00:11:52 Or to operate electrical appliances. Or to text message..
00:11:53 Which option the person wants to activate [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] It will just wait for two seconds [INAUDIBLE] to change,
00:12:07 which stops only once [NOISE] activate. Again [SOUND] option will deactivate and again option will keep on scrolling.
00:12:11 So I tried to make that in a simplified way.
00:12:15 You notice it's not something to make something complicated circuit or something complicated.
00:12:17 It's all about how simply we're able to solve that problem. The incumbent problem.
00:12:23 So a simplified solution is always a great innovation, what I feel.
00:12:28 So in this way, in this version of enabler,
00:12:35 happened that the disabled person with a physically assistive device for the disabled person to empower them to do many
00:12:42 activities like humans do. Like navigating a wheelchair.
00:12:43 Like operating all the electrical appliances, texting messages in a specially designed cell phone,
00:12:48 and so many other activities.
00:12:51 Speaker 1: And that was your first invention?
00:12:55 Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:12:56 Speaker 1: There it started.
00:12:58 Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:12:59 Speaker 1: What came after?
00:13:00 Speaker 2: After making this I got my second President of India [INAUDIBLE] for this invention.
00:13:08 And from the [INAUDIBLE] and [INAUDIBLE] not everything happened all of a sudden after [INAUDIBLE] magazines, news,
00:13:19 and I was [INAUDIBLE] getting that glory for each and every one. I was like what happened all of a sudden?
00:13:27 I was leading a normal life and how this happened all of a sudden.
00:13:30 But in that glory and then one thing I realized that, this is not for which I'm the universal.
00:13:37 That I realized when I was doing pilot testing on one of the disabled person.
00:13:42 When the disabled person was doing the pilot testing of a device. He just I just how would I had instructed to do.
00:13:51 I just gave a five minute training. And he just [INAUDIBLE] wheelchair forward then right and stopped.
00:13:58 Then he changed options and activated the bulb. I saw the tears falling from his eyes.
00:14:05 Speaker 1: It worked.
00:14:07 Speaker 2: And I realized that that was not tears of sorrow, that was tears of joy.
00:14:18 Looking I started also my, so my eyes also tears came open. I feel that's the real success which I am achieving.
00:14:22 This is the real success.
00:14:22 Finally the you know what's being used by the target person for which for whom I have developed that innovation.
00:14:29 So if I'm able to empower one disabled person life then my purpose of making [INAUDIBLE] is fulfilled.
00:14:39 If I can empower one person then I can empower millions [INAUDIBLE] then yeah then [INAUDIBLE]
00:14:44 we can I mean push this product to the market either we can license to any company.
00:14:52 [INAUDIBLE] we realize that [INAUDIBLE]
00:14:54 medical device so it's better that we should license this invention to any [INAUDIBLE]
00:15:02 that can properly manufacture it at that finished product label.
00:15:07 They can manufacture in that label, so that a disabled person can get the maximum benefit out of it.
00:15:13 So thought it's better that we should license to any metacompany. And we are in position to do that.
00:15:20 Because do commerce like this in because it is going to empower millions of disabled people's life.
00:15:24 So it's better we're already established in this biotechnology
00:15:29 and types of medical technology industries are in this field.
00:15:37 Because at [INAUDIBLE] great level I thought that these people can make it global public and to in that level,
00:15:43 with that financing, with that I mentioned with that vision they can just make it reach to that global level.
00:15:52 And second because as of now we are focusing on some other innovation. On variable.
00:15:58 And also it's better not to focus on multiple areas, just to focus on one area where we can give our best.
00:16:06 So I thought there are many, many people who can their best in this area. Big industries for that.
00:16:16 So in this way we are thinking to get a global impact.
00:16:20 Speaker 1: That's quite a thing for a 24 year old.
00:16:24 Speaker 2: Well yeah, what I thought when I was 16 years old. [LAUGH] Yeah.
00:16:29 Speaker 1: And why do you think it's so unique what you are doing?
00:16:33 Speaker 2: See because I didn't [INAUDIBLE] find exact of the preferred solution to solve that [INAUDIBLE] programs.
00:16:46 For everything there is a solution but there is not a simplified solution.
00:16:51 [INAUDIBLE] we have that streaks [INAUDIBLE] or the joystick wheelchair. That's inventions that are there.
00:16:57 But I feel that whether it is exactly serving the problem.
00:17:01 None of them can serve 100% problem but how much [INAUDIBLE] and probability. Of solving the problem that matters.
00:17:13 And how much percent of the problem is being solved that matters.
00:17:17 If there's an innovation which solves 80% of the problem, if I making a [INAUDIBLE]
00:17:22 90% of the problem then that in [INAUDIBLE] should have it.
00:17:25 And when [INAUDIBLE] gives us something internet and all Many other ways, like, I said, we do this macro-survey.
00:17:34 Whether it [INAUDIBLE] is there or not, or any particular solution is there or not.
00:17:40 If I find that there is no such particular solution, or a great solution,
00:17:43 or the perfect solution for any of the encountered problem,
00:17:47 then I feel that I We know something had to be done either by evaluation to the existing universals
00:17:53 or to create a new universal if it is not there.
00:17:54 Speaker 1: So did you feel aware of those that you are now going to produce?
00:18:03 Is this solution for an Indian and it's for that reason that it works?
00:18:09 Speaker 2: Or is it Yeah, it's started first because of looking into Indian problem.
00:18:12 But finally, I found that it's not only an Indian disability problem.
00:18:16 If you say, global record that US is in the number one percent and can [INAUDIBLE] number of everyday and every year.
00:18:26 Second comes Brazil and third comes India.
00:18:29 But in the increasing number of everyday as for the current scenario then India comes number one.
00:18:36 I don't know what happens in two or three of the [INAUDIBLE] is [INAUDIBLE]
00:18:42 and there is no partner in solution of [INAUDIBLE] just put the [INAUDIBLE] on that.
00:18:49 The cops, police, everyone is working at a great level but the thing is that somewhere, something is missing.
00:18:55 Although there are some solutions like taser guns, pepper spray.
00:18:58 But that's not going to because then I would try to understand the psychology of human way.
00:19:05 I mean people are not using the existing universes of products which is there in the market One thing that is dropping
00:19:11 them to use that is a style shipment in there. Not that, those are not fashionable.
00:19:16 Like if there were people spend the thing then why the people express that way? Why who is going to write them?
00:19:22 And it happens all additionally energy system.
00:19:26 So Psychology creates a problem that that confidence [INAUDIBLE] nothing is going to happen.
00:19:34 You just take the example of helmet.
00:19:36 [INAUDIBLE] but to save them from getting [INAUDIBLE] then that's why they are wearing helmets..
00:19:41 We are not [INAUDIBLE] No one things for the worst.
00:19:48 Which is going to happen, so they are just highly confident that nothing's going to happen
00:20:07 and that's where they don't use people's [INAUDIBLE] or whatever the possible [INAUDIBLE]
00:20:20 have been done to the [INAUDIBLE] and second [INAUDIBLE] any kind of [INAUDIBLE] not fashionable..
00:20:20 And [INAUDIBLE] that those are not variable.
00:20:25 [INAUDIBLE] can be used against us. And then can [INAUDIBLE] Same for the [INAUDIBLE] and any other gadgets.
00:20:30 So last we found that cannot be snatched. But snatching more difficult.
00:20:42 I understand that it can be snatched but it will be difficult than to snatch something which you hold,
00:20:44 which is not wearable. Wearable things [INAUDIBLE] difficult to snatch.?
00:20:49 Now we thought that what have we done with [INAUDIBLE] It will be difficult to snatch as well.
00:20:55 Because obviously we have to compare between a man and a woman man is more physically strong.
00:21:03 And confidence wise [INAUDIBLE] but we have to empower the women or girls.
00:21:08 By giving some value in the problem gadget or something.
00:21:12 So we thought that let's improve on small [INAUDIBLE] which one or two second [INAUDIBLE]
00:21:20 200 degrees celsius which is quite enough to burn someone's hand if someone tries to grab the gadget.
00:21:26 Or grab Any part of the hand or somewhere.
00:21:30 The gull can at least make that gadget contact with any part of the screen and get a severe pain.
00:21:36 It will change the mood or mindset of the attacker.
00:21:42 It will get a fear and panic in the attacker that he should not further attack. That should be used at the last moment.
00:21:46 Before that, we have included a panic button.
00:21:48 Just press panic button, like a siren will get activated which is around 180-200 decibel sound,
00:21:56 which is equal to the ambulance and the police siren.
00:21:58 It can be kept in the lady's purse and it will create a havoc in the environment and it will create a hear in the
00:22:07 Speaker 2: [INAUDIBLE] attacker.
00:22:10 And at the same time [INAUDIBLE] will go to the registered numbers and [INAUDIBLE] will go and [INAUDIBLE].
00:22:19 nearest [INAUDIBLE] And in this way this [INAUDIBLE] assessment is [INAUDIBLE]
00:22:23 But we know that only just using this protein [INAUDIBLE] wearable is not going to track the [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE]
00:22:37 customers or the [INAUDIBLE] title [INAUDIBLE] for whom this gadgets we are developing.
00:22:41 For woman, for girls, fashion is a statement, so, in overall we designed it as a smart safety,
00:22:48 smart safety fitness watch. Yes. And finally we included the fitness features and all like the form of a digital watch.
00:23:05 A digital watch that incorporates all the personal features and a hidden [INAUDIBLE] features..
00:23:11 So people will wear as a style statement [INAUDIBLE] if any kind of [INAUDIBLE]
00:23:17 So we are pushing this product in that way in the global market.
00:23:20 Speaker 1: It's like you found almost a niche in the market.
00:23:21 You found a corner in the market that hasn't been covered by others.
00:23:24 Speaker 2: Yes. That's it.
00:23:32 Speaker 1: Has it not been?
00:23:32 Speaker 2: There are fitness was, some better and better and fitness was in the globe.
00:23:33 There are many features, but all in the one available is not available. See, everything is there.
00:23:40 They're like When you make food, you have vegetables and all. But this you make is innovative.
00:23:49 So how you collect the specialty vegetables and all, and how we make it food, that matters.
00:23:54 Finally, how you use the and the sauce, people. Spices and all.
00:24:03 That matters how wonderful and how great you make the food. Because every [INAUDIBLE] everywhere.
00:24:09 So same in case of this gadgets and all. So I will part it into individual features.
00:24:19 Those features will be available everywhere.
00:24:25 But how inadvertently you design how it will consume low power, how effectively it will work,
00:24:30 how much it is user friendly. That matters so this is the one we look we innovate to make it a user friendly solution.
00:24:39 How I mean the target customer like the women and girls can properly use this gadget.
00:24:53 So it's kind of smooth all in one. [INAUDIBLE] design fitness watch with certain features all in one.
00:25:01 Variable is I didn't find anywhere. That's why we developed this gadget.
00:25:01 Speaker 1: And where did you get your knowledge from?
00:25:03 Speaker 2: It's all about [INAUDIBLE] and I am [INAUDIBLE] the work.
00:25:12 I found a problem, and then I tried to identify a proper solution to this.
00:25:22 [INAUDIBLE] I saw that as a problem, this is the encountered problem.
00:25:29 And to this innovation, I accredited it to this innovation. This problem is going to solve.
00:25:33 This is just an idea a raw concept, a raw idea. This is going to put a solution to the problem..
00:25:41 Then we do a market survey.
00:25:49 Solve the [INAUDIBLE] but we found that there are not such great variables
00:25:56 or not such great gadgets which can actually solve the problem.
00:26:00 Then we thought that we have to finally [INAUDIBLE] something. Now I cannot do each and every thing.
00:26:08 It's obvious because I have knowledge in innovation and all, but I have the knowledge and technology as well.
00:26:12 But by doing everything all on our own is very, very difficult. So I develop a prototype.
00:26:16 But to make it a product, that takes teamwork. So now I generalize the work.
00:26:25 But one thing in me that I know, I have a knowledge of which work has to be done at which place.
00:26:36 Who are the right people, who are the people who can do it effectively. What they have that available currently.
00:26:38 I have that knowledge. Due to my experience or due to my exposure of the world. Maybe that [INAUDIBLE] But due to this..
00:26:49 Speaker 1: [INAUDIBLE] It's on again [LAUGH] You should show them. Find a solution for [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGH]
00:27:10 Speaker 2: Yeah..
00:27:11 Speaker 3: Finding the people [LAUGH]
00:27:12 Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah so yeah I was in that so finally. I told her who are the right people, we're very available.
00:27:21 Who will be able to do a particular thing effectively. Like someone will be doing a great design.
00:27:26 So I found it, tried to create a team, all the great designers, innovative designers, who can attest to a.
00:27:33 So I found to create a team. To create talented and like-minded team around the globe.
00:27:39 Then I keep on challenging the things. Which part goes with who can do in a better way?
00:27:46 Then I try to combine everything to form, including my ideas and innovation
00:27:51 and whatever I can implement if I have done this.
00:27:53 And everyone would do this [INAUDIBLE] and combine to make it one product. So that finally it can create impact.
00:28:01 Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying is that you have a lot of ideas, a lot of inventions you make?
00:28:11 You take one out and commercialize it. But when you look at the other inventions what kind of ideas?
00:28:16 Started when you were 16 a part of the wheelchair.
00:28:19 Speaker 2: That time I realized that to push everything [INAUDIBLE] any of the big companies like Apple,
00:28:29 like Microsoft. You see they came to market with one product. Find the one product that can become a hit.
00:28:34 Success and then it came with other products. Even with that one product they keep updating that one product..
00:28:40 [INAUDIBLE] Apple or Microsoft or [INAUDIBLE] They have one product.
00:28:45 They're focusing to the one product and those are successful focus to the one product.
00:28:50 And they're the one who's creating millions and millions of impact.
00:28:55 So I was particular that if I want to try to impact at the global level I should focus to the one product.
00:29:02 If that is [INAUDIBLE] then I should go to the other product. I would like to go with my [INAUDIBLE] licensing.
00:29:13 To any of the company I can license the innovations, and [INAUDIBLE] I'll do.
00:29:23 It will license by any of the [INAUDIBLE]
00:29:24 organizations that we can add some in every unit we can add some value to that product and they can.
00:29:32 Or they will also add value to the product
00:29:34 and we can jointly we can do the commercialization in the joint collaboration for the commercialization
00:29:39 or by licensing completely to the third-party organization.
00:29:44 In this way other innovations can get into the market and that would create impact.
00:29:49 I would think that each and every innovation from my organization
00:29:53 or from my company I'm going to push is very difficult. And that is everything will not get disturbed.
00:29:59 Speaker 1: I understand that, but that's lots of people have these ideas.
00:30:04 Why is it that you were awarded so many awards.
00:30:06 Speaker 2: The way I visualize and imagine a particular program and I found a effective solution for that.
00:30:13 It's all about how effectively the innovation is going to solve the problem, and how simplified the innovation is.
00:30:26 How innovative the idea is. If you take everything into consideration that's where it's been by the president of India..
00:30:31 [INAUDIBLE] What have I got so far? So that [INAUDIBLE] matters..
00:30:41 I could have done in a more manner. It's all about [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE]
00:30:46 Speaker 1: That's why you were awarded.
00:30:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say that.
00:30:51 Speaker 1: And do you agree with that? That you were awarded?
00:30:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, because first thing, on the big night I was thinking that there are many more great innovators,
00:31:02 there are many more innovations, gadgets which are far complicated than my innovations. But why I got awarded?
00:31:08 And obviously the people who give the award out, that win a lot of talented jury members and all would have sit
00:31:22 and thought that whom they should [INAUDIBLE] choose me.
00:31:25 And obviously they represent something that [INAUDIBLE] my innovations.
00:31:25 Something greatness they have found in that innovation.
00:31:26 Then [INAUDIBLE] from them are from somewhere I came to know that, it's [INAUDIBLE].
00:31:30 because how simply program has been solved.
00:31:36 And those innovations these are the innovations that can revolutionize the current scenario.
00:31:45 And it's not about always a complicated opposite, all levels just simplifying.
00:31:48 Speaker 1: And can you tell me, explain a bit more of the innovations you were awarded for.
00:31:56 You have the wheelchair, you have the watch. Other innovations or inventions you?
00:32:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well we have also designed a low-cost electricity system like a [INAUDIBLE] with a great efficiency.
00:32:09 [INAUDIBLE] so yeah but what we have [INAUDIBLE] only if you [INAUDIBLE] has to be done.
00:32:21 [INAUDIBLE] and you can get around 12 to 15 hours electricity.
00:32:24 So that innovativeness we did is that talent we have work on by making that innovation. That's a action which we did.
00:32:36 So for such kind of a gadget now there are many better gadgets like during those days since five to six or several.
00:32:43 We did a gadget where we can open all the computer and laptop applications without using a keyboard and mouse.
00:32:50 The keyboard and mouse we transfer to a gadget.
00:32:54 Just like we just act everything in the air and that will get resulted on the computer screen.
00:33:01 Like I would click here, that would get clicked. I will like I can type here. Everything I can do so.
00:33:12 [INAUDIBLE] great revolutionary invention but now there are a lot many since came.
00:33:16 So in this way there a lot of innovations [INAUDIBLE] because we know that driverless cars are [INAUDIBLE] cost
00:33:26 and design it's one. If people want some more designs of the car or something they cannot get a driverless.
00:33:32 To get a driverless car they have to buy that particular car.
00:33:34 And it is difficult that the vision is to reduce road accidents. Its vision is to reduce traffic jams and all.
00:33:47 So, each and every vehicle has to be driverless. If not, only one who can get it's not possible.
00:33:53 Everyone can afford a driverless car.
00:33:55 Everyone cannot that all together will not sell their old car to get the driverless car.
00:34:03 So you have to think for each and every one.
00:34:06 So like I told her, keep committees then, which can be implemented each and every vehicle, even a low-cost vehicle,
00:34:15 even someone is using a low-cost vehicle.
00:34:19 And the kit can implement from a low-cost vehicle to a vehicle who vehicle that is more than millions.
00:34:22 And those vehicles were converted to a driverless.
00:34:23 Ensure making a driverless car minor to make a driverless kit and instruct, make it a driverless one.
00:34:27 So that is where the global story, the mobility industries.
00:34:36 Speaker 1: And that's and what's your role in that?
00:34:37 Speaker 2: Yeah we have designed the kit.
00:34:37 So we are looking that we can license to any team automobile industry so that they can get into the market.
00:34:45 We don't want to commercialize this innovation.
00:34:46 Speaker 1: And what makes it Indian what you're doing? It's so specific that.
00:34:53 Speaker 2: Yeah because see in India traffic jams and [INAUDIBLE] is more as compared to the other developed countries.
00:35:05 Because here the traffic management is gradually getting proper but [INAUDIBLE]
00:35:09 scenario you can see the traffic jams and all is a matter of concern.
00:35:14 So, to solve that I feel that [INAUDIBLE] vehicle.
00:35:17 Speaker 1: So is what you see in your daily life, [INAUDIBLE] is you're trying to solve.
00:35:24 Speaker 2: Sure, what I am seeing. But primarily when I'm inventing something, I'm looking at the global aspect..
00:35:34 How globally it [INAUDIBLE] And it always start from one place.
00:35:36 So as being an Indian, I'm looking at how fast I will [INAUDIBLE] to impact in India.
00:35:43 Then the same thing I can replicate to create impact around the globe.
00:35:46 Because everyone is a human being and I believe that humanity matters.
00:35:47 Speaker 1: And in what way is meditation helping you to find solution?
00:35:56 Speaker 2: Yes because I'm looking beyond my imagination, beyond that level that is going to solve the problem.
00:36:05 It's not in my mind that it won't work.
00:36:07 So that comes, that extra, that power is required to think different, think unique.
00:36:15 So I feel that because of that, I'm able to think beyond my imagination, beyond that capacity.,
00:36:23 May be different from people [INAUDIBLE] but I feel that helps me, that drives me to deliver something, really..
00:36:30 Speaker 1: And what's happening when you're meditating? Can you explain me what's happening in your head then?
00:36:35 Speaker 2: See I am able to visualize, I will be able to visualize my vision.
00:36:42 Our vision is to impact, to empower 50 million users worldwide in the next five years.
00:36:48 So I'm able to visualize that, how we are going. If we are going in right direction or wrong, what we should do next.
00:36:56 I'm able to see that. In the form of a dream or in the form of a video. What do I see when I am closing my eyes.
00:37:13 I'm able to see that, ideas. What [INAUDIBLE] show now, we are going in this direction.
00:37:16 Or there is some problem and we should shift to this direction. Or we should do this to create more impact.
00:37:17 So I'm able to scan that five-year vision.
00:37:17 What I have done now, where we are standing, what we have to do more to stand, at this position.
00:37:20 So how this can multiply through that impact we're created from millions to billions.
00:37:26 So how it can, i just, we are able to visualize that and we strictly focused to our vision.
00:37:34 And we assume that if will,
00:37:35 I think that vision in the next five years we will even active in the if you were able to at least 50% of our.
00:37:45 In the next five years, that has been it will multiply to billions in next five or next 10 to 15 years billions
00:37:58 or automatically. Through mouth publicity or through the noise, which will be created.
00:38:00 It will automatically get multiplied. So we don't need to then focus to impact billions.
00:38:05 If we can impact millions, then automatically it will multiply to billions.
00:38:09 Speaker 1: Where you say visualize, what happens in your head? Can you explain me the different steps?
00:38:15 Speaker 2: Yeah three.
00:38:16 Speaker 1: For these three hours of medication..
00:38:17 Speaker 2: Actually in this [INAUDIBLE] we have chakras.
00:38:26 We can say crown [INAUDIBLE] in English there is [INAUDIBLE] throat, this is to the heart,
00:38:35 so you are energized as you can say. All these when you some there's some extra energy in the universe.
00:38:45 So when you meditate, when you use like I actually I'll do the advance which is mantra healing.
00:38:55 Reykian mantra healing I do generally. So in that I just transfer the cosmic energy to my body..
00:38:59 And in that process obviously that energy enters through here to [INAUDIBLE] And then it's [INAUDIBLE]
00:39:03 to the outer environment. So that enters [INAUDIBLE] body. Then there is the effect to the environment.
00:39:16 So that energy helps you to gain that strength and that confidence that overall development you get..
00:39:27 You get a power to [INAUDIBLE] That is most important. The people that are successful at [INAUDIBLE] right thing.
00:39:37 So that things you will feel that you are able to get that confidence that yes this is the right decision you are
00:39:44 taking. This is a right time to do this work.
00:39:47 This type of development I feel that it happens [INAUDIBLE] and it will hit you
00:39:53 and the energy will hit you into the body. Yes you will feel that hit if you are doing it properly.
00:39:54 Speaker 1: And it's three hours a day.
00:39:57 Speaker 2: I do one for five hours you can say.
00:40:07 Speaker 1: Five hours?
00:40:08 Speaker 2: Not five hours, two hours thirty minutes.
00:40:10 Speaker 1: Okay.
00:40:11 Speaker 2: 2.5 hours.
00:40:12 Speaker 1: And then you're completely heated?.
00:40:15 Speaker 2: Yeah completely heated and that aggression and energy has created [INAUDIBLE] If I plan this,
00:40:22 I will be able to achieve this. I don't know, I've got that extra boost, you can say.
00:40:36 To move that with that force to achieve that vision.
00:40:42 Every day I'm doing something that my vision is getting achieved everyday.
00:40:44 Everyday I am just putting a drop of that to fulfill that vision.
00:40:50 Speaker 1: And when you could explain that vision that you have. What is it?
00:40:59 The vision you have, where are you in five, ten years?
00:41:02 Speaker 2: Yeah in the next five years, we are just visualizing to impact 50 million users in the next five years.
00:41:11 And to achieve the 50 million users obviously and that's who [INAUDIBLE] products.
00:41:15 So we are now making a product in such a way that millions of people are going to buy this product.
00:41:25 They would like to feel [INAUDIBLE]
00:41:27 special by which it will make them feel for awhile that special if they wear this device, so to make them that feel.
00:41:32 So we're just trying to create that [INAUDIBLE] in such a way that people will just love to get this product.
00:41:40 Will feel special at getting this product.
00:41:42 So we are doing that so and we are [INAUDIBLE] in a couple of months we will do this
00:41:47 and we will just put this product to the market.
00:41:51 And then it will just multiply to where from thousands to millions then millions you keep on increasing.
00:41:54 But yes the graph will be like this like this ups and downs will come, be we'll show [INAUDIBLE]
00:41:58 that if we get some critiques we'll keep on doing value to that and that we're doing through pilot testings.
00:42:10 We're doing a lot of pilot testings, a lot of trials, and what the critiques are getting we're just improving that..
00:42:20 We're improving our features but we are just besides [INAUDIBLE] Will do it fashionable design
00:42:21 and what we will do we will put that in front of the public and public will present that.
00:42:24 Speaker 1: You were 16 eight years ago. So you have now an eight year, you have 25 people working with you?
00:42:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:42:40 Speaker 1: Where did you make your money off the last eight years?
00:42:43 Speaker 2: Obviously our products are not yet launching into market
00:42:48 but we have started creating a noise of the product, that this is going to be launching to market.
00:42:52 But doing a lot of pilot testing, trials on the people.
00:42:55 The money we are getting is through [INAUDIBLE] business which is our secondary business..
00:43:02 But let me kind of say of our organization.
00:43:08 So we'll do something [INAUDIBLE] projects for industries for corporates, for governments,
00:43:14 and through this becomes one of the revenue source for company as of the present..
00:43:22 And second it creates an experience to a team and to make them [INAUDIBLE] diversify knowledge [INAUDIBLE]
00:43:33 And we take such projects that would help us make our products better. We don't do every kind of confidential business.
00:43:49 We are very focused, even if we are doing a confidential business,
00:43:50 we are focused on which kind of innovations we would take from our clients.
00:43:52 We take those products which would help our team get experience so that they can do in our products.
00:44:09 Speaker 1: And what kind of [INAUDIBLE] it's very general.
00:44:09 Speaker 2: We are into IOT automation and we are [INAUDIBLE] to these areas, automation, IOT solutions.
00:44:12 Although there are products, many things happen but we are [INAUDIBLE] to this, if any of the product or [INAUDIBLE]
00:44:18 that has any of this sectors like mechanics and all, we just outsource it to some other organization
00:44:24 or to other collaborated partners.
00:44:26 Speaker 1: And looking at yourself as a person, six years, you were first awarded at 17, I think?
00:44:38 Speaker 2: At my 16.
00:44:38 Speaker 1: At 16, you were awarded?
00:44:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:44:40 Speaker 1: And then what kind of awards you built afterwards till.
00:44:46 Speaker 2: So like inter level I got the NASA I know so many it happened all of a sudden.
00:44:51 Because when our [INAUDIBLE] automatically obviously you will get that boost, natural boost,
00:44:54 or such innovations so you will be rewarded next and next.,
00:45:01 So you got to at least express when you got [INAUDIBLE] so you learn that see [INAUDIBLE] after so many failures..
00:45:10 [INAUDIBLE] and fail means [INAUDIBLE] learning. So that's also [INAUDIBLE] You use a fail first to achieve something.
00:45:19 So you learn through fail and you also learn by achieving that, so you are particular what to do and what not to do.
00:45:25 Speaker 1: So what is it that you will not do [INAUDIBLE]
00:45:28 Speaker 2: I command both then when I think of version, [INAUDIBLE] other things.
00:45:31 When I'm doing this [INAUDIBLE] what should I not do and what should I do?
00:45:37 And by which [INAUDIBLE] thought what to do and what not do. All the [INAUDIBLE] what I am doing.
00:45:42 I can go hours in various organizations and [INAUDIBLE]
00:45:51 Speaker 1: And would you sum up briefly, what kind of innovations and inventions you did?
00:45:59 Can you tell me several things.
00:46:00 Speaker 2: [LAUGH] [INAUDIBLE] Very long. Okay fine one is the in a you can see the of which I just described.
00:46:07 One is the low cluster. I mean, one kit, one accidental technology.
00:46:18 Because in the is far from the mountains, because of the night with the roads are not visible [INAUDIBLE]
00:46:27 for people from the mountain.
00:46:29 So that now would just design a kit that can be implemented in a vehicle by which the vehicle stopping there is no
00:46:38 place to move. If there is a hole, or there's a pit. There is road end.
00:46:41 If there is no road cause the vehicle will stop and then it will slightly move back and put the brake.
00:46:49 Speaker 1: And.
00:46:50 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, and one's that low cost product for the villagers and for the rural empowerment,
00:46:58 we did that device, that gate which can provide electricity to the villagers at a very affordable price.
00:47:06 Then we did your driver less kit which can implement in a vehicle to, I mean to make the completely driver less car.
00:47:12 Yeah, then we designed a kit which can be implemented in any of the home.
00:47:29 Whenever you will be inside the home, inside the room, there will be the electrical appliances will be active.
00:47:36 Whenever you leave the room, the electricity will automatically go off,
00:47:40 because generally we forget to switch off the device and all.
00:47:43 So whenever you are in the lighting should be there, whenever you are not there, the lighting should be off.
00:47:51 At a very low cost, affordable price. Then,
00:47:55 Speaker 2: Then some universals, which is not Exactly. I mean useful for the public data.
00:48:05 [INAUDIBLE] For instance for a [INAUDIBLE] since we did some.
00:48:08 These are the innovations which [INAUDIBLE] something [INAUDIBLE]
00:48:20 which is going to create interest in the youth-first technology towards innovations.
00:48:27 If we don't have [INAUDIBLE] has an indirect benefit. For entertainment purpose, for educational purpose.
00:48:41 And during my seminars where I am the guest speaker in colleges or in corporations
00:48:47 or schools I used to display such gadgets. And creates interest in the youth towards technology.
00:48:52 So the [INAUDIBLE] that will be operated from hand gestures. Whether I will move my hand or don't really move.
00:48:55 And [INAUDIBLE] designed it. I [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] hard hard work. Then the ripples will get activate.
00:48:59 And like the hand and the chest will get activate.
00:49:01 So these are some of the innovations that create interest in youth because they can connect with,
00:49:08 they're really super heroes. That they have seen this super heroes in a television, in a movie.
00:49:17 But they know that that's animated. When they see that thing in a real form, in a form of universal.
00:49:23 So they think that the innovation is so wonderful, so beautiful.
00:49:28 So entirely that field you know so this technology is really interesting.
00:49:38 So they are then driven by passion towards networks and technology universal economy.
00:49:39 Speaker 1: That when I hear these examples, which are very nice, but I also think immediately but I've seen that there,
00:49:43 I've seen it in the US. I've seen it in Europe.
00:49:44 Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:49:45 Speaker 1: I've seen it. So why don't they import that in India instead of waiting for your innovations to be made?
00:49:52 Speaker 2: See, there might be something [INAUDIBLE] better than me. [INAUDIBLE] better than which I have done.
00:49:58 But it's all about to find a test. To find a test in the customer, offer that to your customer.
00:50:10 When you do innovation you find, who are targeted customer, what are targeted area.
00:50:18 I will give an example and from that example you will find answer. Both took the example of Amazon and.
00:50:22 They both are the great companies. And Amazon is obviously here and flip [INAUDIBLE] and everyone knows that.
00:50:28 Only one thing you can find in India there is a lot of companies like this.
00:50:32 Amazon, there is, so in India Amazon already [INAUDIBLE] but there's some in India that [INAUDIBLE] there is SnapDeal,
00:50:38 there are many e-commerce companies. [INAUDIBLE] was the one who aggressively captured the Indian market first.
00:50:45 And why? Because of the one simplified feature that improved it. Amazon is far much better and big than Flipkart.
00:50:54 But Flipkart wins in capturing the Indian market.
00:50:55 Because the person, the cofounder, the owner of the Flipkart is Indian,
00:51:02 and he thought that what that innovative feature can be done.
00:51:05 That can add a test in the [INAUDIBLE] so that can add [INAUDIBLE] so the people would like to eat that food...
00:51:12 And what you do he just included [INAUDIBLE] Which Amazon included [INAUDIBLE] but that time hit the [INAUDIBLE]
00:51:25 And people aggressively followed FlipKart.
00:51:25 Because in Indians people don't generally trust on e-commerce if they are passed then the letter get the products.
00:51:28 In India feel that hand to hand. Give the product, they take the money.
00:51:40 So that one filter that created relatively, he get there completely the Indian market.
00:51:46 So the question was to hire the from nine thousand one-th of the I am looking into that.
00:51:51 I am adding such features which is, for whom I am targeting the area of the customers, I mean, my target customers,
00:52:02 in a particular area, to whom I am targeting, I am very focused at, these are the target customers whom I am focusing..
00:52:10 Indians, let's say.
00:52:16 If I'm looking into US I will do some changes in the features.
00:52:23 If I look in the Saudi, Arab countries, I do some changes in the features..
00:52:33 So for different place, in Hindi there is a statement like, [FOREIGN]
00:52:36 Speaker 2: New place, new people, so you have to act accordingly as per their taste and all.
00:52:47 You have to modify so, I mean, new place, there will be new people.
00:52:48 So, I mean, in say, one product which will be liked by Indian may not be liked by British,
00:52:52 also may not be liked by people in US. The product which will be liked by US, may not be liked by Indians.
00:52:59 So the product you have to keep on changing small minor things you have to do if you are changing from target custom
00:53:07 variable. Tending the direction of your customers. When you use Indian, ABC should be a filter.
00:53:13 When it's US it should be BCD. If it is British house it maybe DEF. So in that way.
00:53:20 So if I'm focusing India, so if Indians are not focusing on the I'd rather then focus on this for them.
00:53:24 Because I found that this ABC is going to attract them to create interest in them. It's as simple as it is.
00:53:39 Speaker 1: So the uniqueness is also that you were in this hospital looking at this man, trying,
00:53:45 needing a wheelchair that he could move himself.
00:53:45 Speaker 2: Yes, himself, but main thing they should be affordable.
00:53:46 If they import a wheelchair that could be cost more than two or three or half a millions.
00:53:50 At least they know that this wheelchair which I have developed is low cost, is affordable.
00:53:58 Even I give flexible options. I give flexible options like don't have [INAUDIBLE] wheelchair.
00:54:03 When you donate a wheelchair you can get the kit at the price of 15 to 20,000 rupees.
00:54:17 Can get this kit, you can sit and [INAUDIBLE] and you can operate electrical appliances, you can text messages.
00:54:18 If you want the mobility of some, we can [INAUDIBLE] local [INAUDIBLE] for you.
00:54:21 [INAUDIBLE] for you and your customers [INAUDIBLE] and we can implement [INAUDIBLE] in the wheelchair.
00:54:26 So providing that special option to the target customer makes them feel special?
00:54:39 and they choose you rather than choosing any other. Why they will invest [INAUDIBLE]
00:54:40 Speaker 2: I mean more money if they're getting the special thing [INAUDIBLE]
00:54:44 so I know that what exactly is going to attract Indian customers.
00:54:49 Speaker 1: And how many wheelchair owners or people that are disabled are using your kit?
00:54:56 Speaker 2: Currently there will be more than twenty, i can say will be, but in a formal pilot testing,
00:55:03 because this is not a product which we are commercializing at our own brand.
00:55:06 So, during the pilot testings and through some tie-up organisations.
00:55:09 I mean, they just develop some of the units and we helped them in developing those and kits units
00:55:14 and it was been [INAUDIBLE] by many of the users. Maybe to at the hospitals in this way.
00:55:26 But officially we're not commercializing this.
00:55:27 We are [INAUDIBLE] with the companies so that they can commercialize in a better way.
00:55:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not commercialized yet.
00:55:35 Speaker 2: Yes.
00:55:36 Speaker 1: No and when you look around the globe, who are your heroes?
00:55:41 Who would, when you envision somebody that you would like to be can you think of one.
00:55:46 Speaker 2: Every successful people and every unsuccessful people are my heroes.
00:55:50 From successful people I learn what to do and from every unsuccessful people I learn what not to do. [INAUDIBLE]
00:55:54 Speaker 2: Like I said [INAUDIBLE] Steve Jobs. Each one of them, like Elon Musk, these people have massively done that.
00:56:09 I learned everything [INAUDIBLE] I learned what other things make mistakes and [INAUDIBLE] to reach that level.
00:56:15 From there I learned that what I should not do and what I should do.
00:56:25 So that I can reach that [INAUDIBLE] at our [INAUDIBLE] you feel that I am [INAUDIBLE]
00:56:29 at a young age because of that I try to learn from other's experience.
00:56:38 By what they have down which they got a downfall, what they have done got an achievement.
00:56:45 Like if you take the example of Elon Musk,
00:56:50 like PayPal whatever he has earned like around $150 million he earned through PayPal,
00:56:54 he invested into completely into Tesla Motors and SpaceX. We don't know why he did.
00:56:57 He even didn't establish single penny. I mean he borrowed.
00:56:59 In those days, he was borrowing from his friends and he was staying in a rented house.
00:57:04 I don't know [INAUDIBLE] did what. But I think he was more focused to the vision.
00:57:08 When you don't want [INAUDIBLE] you can invest that [INAUDIBLE] he did that.
00:57:14 He was completely involved in fulfilling his vision. So for many [INAUDIBLE] has done is right.
00:57:21 Speaker 1: And when you put it on yourself. What makes you a visionary for others who think?
00:57:26 Speaker 2: See, I notice every human can tend to think they should have a luxurious life, or a royal life.
00:57:32 He should have a bungalow, he should have a car, he should have luxurious vehicles. He should lead a royal lifestyle.
00:57:40 Every human being wants that. But there are some people that to achieve that, they just focus on that.
00:57:49 How are we going to achieve that, how we are going to achieve a big house, how will drive our dream car,
00:57:56 or how we will have a lot of bank balance, they focus on that.
00:57:59 There are some people, like, I also want that kind of life. But I'm not focusing to do that.
00:58:04 I know that if I should focus to my vision, everything will come, everything will put in my place.
00:58:14 So everything will be put in the place.
00:58:14 I don't need to focus how much my bank balance, whether I have my dream house or not, or whether I have a mansion
00:58:22 or not, do I have a dream car or not. I don't need to focus there.
00:58:25 I know that all this all this dreams will be fulfilled if I fulfill my vision. If I stick to my vision.
00:58:30 Everything will get put in my bag. So this all will be put in my list. So I just stick to the vision.
00:58:38 I know that I can accept that by focusing on the vision. So, if I from the vision, everything will go, go away.
00:58:44 And but the real happiness that I'm going to get is when vision is fulfilled.
00:58:50 If I find and someone says, users changed my life, changed my life.
00:58:58 That is real, my achievement, rather than the of this and this, house or dream, that is my dream house or dream car.
00:59:10 I can hear a that this has reality saved my life. Thank you so much.
00:59:11 If I hear this small statement from any of my users, I am more than happy.
00:59:16 Speaker 1: And I understand that, but then still, why are you, in the eyes of other people, a visionary?
00:59:26 Speaker 2: Because I stick to my vision. Every time the activities I do that gives value to the vision.
00:59:33 And what [INAUDIBLE] I do I step every day I step one ladder to reach the destination of the vision
00:59:43 and people can see if I'm doing that that will be. Seen by others and that's why they feel that I am visionary.
00:59:50 Speaker 1: So you will be the next Elon Musk, probably.
00:59:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I'd love to.
00:59:54 Speaker 1: First of all, you wanted to tell something about your big example.
01:00:01 Speaker 2: Yeah first you asked, whether I wanted to be the next Elon Musk.
01:00:14 I will say yes, I want to be the next Elon Musk of India. I can say because Elon Musk is a really great entrepeneur.
01:00:20 And first I will be myself, I will be who's similar to next Elon Musk of India.
01:00:24 So obviously with my uniqueness, with my some innovative mind and entrepreneurial mind obviously.
01:00:34 If I would have fulfilled that vision,
01:00:35 I would have been able to I think the vision if I had been able to impact millions of life, billions of life
01:00:40 and obviously to reach that percentage is will be not a big deal.
01:00:46 Speaker 1: And what is your vision?
01:00:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, just what I just mentioned before.
01:00:50 I like to empower 15 million users worldwide in the next five years.
01:00:56 Then, and obviously to raise a billion will be very easier if that vision is active in the next five years.
01:01:04 Speaker 1: What kind of problems do you encounter here in India? I suppose it's not all one success story.
01:01:10 Speaker 2: See, if you want to find problems, and you should come to India, I can say.
01:01:14 So there is lot more and we take problems as achievement.
01:01:17 If there is a problem, then that's achievement because there is a lot many things that we can learn
01:01:23 and a lot many things we can explore. And where we can use our mind to develop something which can solve that problem.
01:01:30 And that problem may be directly and indirectly will be finished by the other parts of the world as well.
01:01:37 So that can greater impact in that areas as well.
01:01:41 So anything that is, in modern India it's not only solving the problems of Indian politics,
01:01:47 it's also solving the problems of the global people as well.
01:01:50 Speaker 1: So you see Indian problems and try to find solutions for that?
01:01:56 Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly.
01:01:57 Speaker 1: And the question whether what makes what you invent more unique than what already exists in the world?
01:02:09 Speaker 2: [INAUDIBLE] how very inadvertently I have done any invention.
01:02:20 It happens finally but that depends to make it more user-friendly. I don't look to make it user-friendly.
01:02:24 If something that is similar to the existing innovation, if my innovation has some extra one features,
01:02:30 I would like to market that innovation.
01:02:33 I would like to present innovation to the market whether it's from my organization company
01:02:37 or whether through organization or whether it's in the collaboration with other organizations or companies.
01:02:42 So if there, by evaluating that one feature in a resident industry, you're really creating impact.
01:02:49 And I would like to push that. If we, to make it more user-friendly, then we can get a great computer data system.
01:02:55 So it happens when I'm focusing to make it user-friendly. It becomes innovation.
01:03:02 Speaker 1: I, for this series we filmed in the most modern elapse you can imagine.
01:03:08 The unique, yesterday in the fap lab I have to admit it was not the most modern.
01:03:17 How is it that fap lab that come the newest innovation?
01:03:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's type of place where allow other makers to privilege lab.
01:03:35 We just provide privilege and access to that lab.
01:03:40 They can access the lab, the they can do something to prototypes and products.
01:03:45 Like yesterday you filmed that and you saw that how there are some different methods.
01:03:50 So we're doing some different things.
01:03:53 So we just try to create that ecosystem where the other methods and [INAUDIBLE] will come and open a model.
01:03:59 Like open work space so people can do team.
01:04:05 They will do they will do but finally they will do something that is going to create an impact.
01:04:10 So that's a will be provided at a young age, at a year, and then they will get impact at such,
01:04:17 when they will come to at least In their 30s or 40s.
01:04:22 So if they will keep struggling till their 30s or 40s then obviously, if they will utilize that time
01:04:25 and effort in creating that space, then they will start working and it will consume a lot of time.
01:04:32 Efficiency will decrease.
01:04:34 So now that these guys Only to give effort to, I mean, to create a vast space, which we have already created.
01:04:44 So there's a need to execute their ideas into products, and push to the market.
01:04:49 We also help project ecosystem, that manufacturing peak ecosystem, that talent ecosystem, Getting tie ups
01:04:56 or collaborate some ecosystems by which that can sort of get into market at earliest as possible.
01:05:01 Speaker 1: So is that good? The television experience you had??
01:05:05 So it is good to have a bit of a clumsy kind of lab because there you can discover and invent. Is that [CROSSTALK]
01:05:12 Speaker 2: And obviously, when there are more and more, if you provide space to other makers
01:05:13 and innovators will come other makers and innovators, too. Worker and under one umbrella.
01:05:22 Now with that ecosystem where we can discuss each other, we can create critics each other
01:05:31 and finally a best strategy will come out of that. Only you think to develop and a team will think to develop.
01:05:34 So obviously the team is going to create the impact.
01:05:39 Speaker 1: It's like you created a place where you can research the television.
01:05:42 Speaker 2: Yes.
01:05:42 Speaker 1: Something like that, yeah. When I hear you, you- [INAUDIBLE]
01:05:47 Speaker 1: Did you have your vest open or closed?
01:05:52 Speaker 2: Closed, closed, so this closed, closed. So it was open?
01:05:57 Speaker 1: It was opened.
01:05:58 Speaker 2: Opened, yeah. Yeah.
01:06:00 Speaker 1: I should open it?
01:06:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. Please, as is was. [INAUDIBLE]
01:06:09 Speaker 1: No. We don't have to do it again, but I mean it's just, from now on it's okay. It's okay. No no no.
01:06:11 Keep it open.
01:06:11 Speaker 2: Sorry sorry. I didn't know.,
01:06:12 Speaker 1: No, that's our responsibility. Yeah.
01:06:15 So when you talk, you talk like a person with a lot of experience, but you're only 24 years old.
01:06:27 Speaker 2: But I have seven years experience in the field of universal and entrepreneurial.
01:06:34 Although I Officially, we have incorporated our company, InThinks, our startup I can say.
01:06:39 Our startup InThinks, Innovators and Thinkers, InThinks. And our slogan is empowering future.
01:06:44 So we have recently incorporated last year, but before officially incorporating, we started a journey.
01:06:51 And through that journey, we have learned a lot of Struggles and all up downs so that gives us experience.
01:06:57 And by [INAUDIBLE] to the global network so that creates a lot of experience to us and still we are learners.
01:07:11 [INAUDIBLE]
01:07:11 we will keep the learning attitude whenever possible from our top leaders to the Failures to even from a child.
01:07:20 If I'm able to learn something [INAUDIBLE] more privileged I am getting a chance to learn.
01:07:22 If I'm interacting with kids they are learning from me and I am learning from them.
01:07:27 [INAUDIBLE] and that's where I think we are progressing on the right direction.
01:07:34 Speaker 1: And are you focused on yourself not on the we form but the I form.
01:07:35 What did you learn personally from the last as you are still quite young.
01:07:39 When you started 16 was your first invention, what did you, what makes you so successful?
01:07:49 Speaker 2: See I just follow my passion, first my passion was this technology so I am just following my passion.
01:08:00 And [INAUDIBLE] to a profession.
01:08:00 And I believe a person is transforming his passion to a profession then [INAUDIBLE]
01:08:03 because they're following their heart. Money comes along the way to the journey.
01:08:08 So that is [INAUDIBLE] because you might be doing something which you are earning millions.
01:08:17 But if it went for [INAUDIBLE] unless but this person was following the [INAUDIBLE] is [INAUDIBLE]
01:08:23 because he is happier.
01:08:24 This person always want this thing will be haunting him throughout the day, every night through the night [INAUDIBLE]
01:08:34 at least every night he will feel haunting.
01:08:39 Sleeping in his dreams maybe so he has not actually he was interested or he didn't follow his passion.
01:08:50 He might want to be a good writer but he was doing something a nine to five job or he got a better job in.
01:09:01 He's earning Millions every month but he will regret.
01:09:04 Regret will keep on haunting every night that he didn't follow his passion.
01:09:08 Better than to feel regret is you follow your passion and follow your heart.
01:09:16 Speaker 1: That's what you're doing now?
01:09:17 Speaker 2: Yes, in that way I feel that I'm successful. The rest is whether how much you're crediting better.
01:09:22 How much traveling you have done. How much Money you [INAUDIBLE] that will be just a part of the life.
01:09:31 And that is going to happen [INAUDIBLE] time. So we should not focus on that.
01:09:40 We should focus on following your passion. And through a passion how are you [INAUDIBLE] impact.
01:09:46 These two things matters.
01:09:48 Speaker 1: And Can you give me, what’s for you, let me see. What’s for you a magic word?
01:09:56 I mean, can you give me a word that you think, wow, this drives me?
01:10:00 Speaker 2: See. Always keep [INAUDIBLE] that's what I learned..
01:10:03 Whether you are in a team or in personal life or professional life.
01:10:04 Expectation should be effectiveness. [INAUDIBLE] whether [INAUDIBLE] because you are going to do that.
01:10:05 There's a difference, I will ask my hand. I will think that I should, if there's a water bottle.
01:10:30 I will ask my hand to get that water bottle for me. So I will go and get, I will come.
01:10:37 Now if I explain that I will ask you go get that water bottle for me.
01:10:41 There are two options whether you will get it or [INAUDIBLE] That options for no if I ask [INAUDIBLE] for me...
01:10:49 But if I ask myself go and get a [INAUDIBLE] for me so that [INAUDIBLE] So it will give [INAUDIBLE]
01:10:59 If you are not able to expertly use then how can you challenge your team to that vision?
01:11:05 So on whom we're expecting is a matter of concern.
01:11:12 Speaker 1: This series, every episode has an archetype. And you are in the archetype, the maker.
01:11:17 Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:11:17 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
01:11:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a maker first. Because a maker is also an innovator. A maker is also a creator.
01:11:34 So A maker has a free body, is free to do whatever he wants.
01:11:41 He'll try to hack and all, but finally, the result matters when you are an entrepreneur. You are creating impact.
01:11:42 A maker tries to hack anything, destroy anything, create anything,
01:11:46 without focusing that whether it is going to create impact or not. He just tried to create a wow effect out of it.
01:11:53 Which I think when you did the shooting in the fab lab you see how differently we have done some universals and all.
01:12:00 Haphazardly, just to kind of do what you can say. Try to solve a particular problem in that prospective time.
01:12:10 What we didn't because of how that things back.
01:12:12 But finally you have turn it on if we want to make a research to the global people.
01:12:24 So I'm a maker of clash model but finally output on us to create that impact.
01:12:33 By being a make a value not be able to create an impact.
01:12:44 Speaker 1: Okay thank you.
01:12:44 Speaker 2: Kind of with what's now for the schools and that they can afford it. [INAUDIBLE]
01:12:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, could you,
01:12:47 what is the difference in innovating for Indian markets comparing it to other markets world wide, or US markets,
01:12:55 for example? What's the difference?
01:12:57 Speaker 2: Between the innovations?
01:12:58 Speaker 1: What is the difference? In innovating for Indian markets comparing it to other markets?
01:13:04 What makes Indian markets so difficult or special?
01:13:09 Speaker 2: [INAUDIBLE] which should attract that audience that I should get the product.
01:13:18 [INAUDIBLE] That ISO graded products. Everyone, if they want something in their lives, they need a water bottle.
01:13:24 They have some such ideas. Like they should get more quantity, better quality, they should get it at a price.
01:13:33 So Indian has a mindset as let's keep some credit as if they're get attract to any of the product.
01:13:40 Apart from these three, most important is that if anyone is referring, is giving the testimony of that product,
01:13:50 if any of his friend says, you know, that this XYZ water bottle is very awesome, it tastes better.
01:14:00 Speaker 2: Then that Indian is going to get that product which his friend referred.
01:14:07 So that reference, that mouth of publicity matters first. And then they can do the other qualities..
01:14:13 I'm talking about the [INAUDIBLE] not every but of the [INAUDIBLE].
01:14:16 So your product should be sustainable it should get a [INAUDIBLE] It should get into the people's mouth publicity..
01:14:27 It should make them feel that special, so that they can do [INAUDIBLE] In Indians if you talk about iPads,
01:14:28 less people know the [INAUDIBLE] iPads. What many people [INAUDIBLE] that we can afford an iPad.
01:14:44 And sometimes I feel Apple makes those products to give message that you don't have your own value. Get our product.
01:14:54 That increase your value. Sometimes I maybe wrong [INAUDIBLE] happens more in Indians.
01:15:02 There are people who don't even know to use iPhone properly. They just know how to call..
01:15:06 They don't to use apps and anything but they get an iPhone just to do [INAUDIBLE]
01:15:12 That will add the value in because by getting such products.
01:15:20 I feel that [INAUDIBLE] If you really, if required and really then take it.
01:15:22 Speaker 1: When you personalized that,
01:15:23 so what is going to make you successful at the Indian market instead of other companies that come from abroad?
01:15:35 Speaker 2: So obviously being an Indian, I know the, I understand the mentality of the Indians.
01:15:41 I know what they exactly wants and what I should include in a product so that they will be easily fascinated
01:15:50 or they will be easily attracted towards a product, that would make them feel special.
01:15:55 So everything I am putting into consideration.
01:15:57 So like if people coming from abroad will think to make a product and to put in the market,
01:16:03 they will not understand exactly Indian mindset. Like you can see just recently, if I take the example of Apple.
01:16:09 They just decreased the price of the Apple. And the volume sales increased drastically.
01:16:18 So there might be some Indian in the Apple and they are [INAUDIBLE] might have suggested that if you do this [INAUDIBLE]
01:16:31 it is going to drastically increase the number of sales in India.
01:16:38 So if you want to [INAUDIBLE] on the Indians, it's a great market. It is more than 1 billion populace.
01:16:44 If you know in India so there is more [INAUDIBLE]
01:16:55 and the population is more than 1 billion so you can sell your products in the Indian market so.
01:17:01 If you follow some parameters and that [INAUDIBLE]
01:17:08 obviously if you are from Netherlands than you know better what product has to be done than that is going to
01:17:17 [INAUDIBLE] audience. Or the Netherland people.
01:17:22 I cannot go and I cannot get a [INAUDIBLE] product that will attract them.
01:17:26 If you, if there is a comparison if you saw a product and I saw a product, your product is going to sell.
01:17:32 But, the reverse will be in India.
01:17:34 If I make a product, which your product may be 100 times better than my product,
01:17:38 but I will be including something in that problem, might [INAUDIBLE] because I will knowing that [INAUDIBLE]
01:17:44 Indian mindset.
01:17:44 Speaker 4: [INAUDIBLE] the cost if there's any other
01:17:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay well you asked the question already. Are there other parts [INAUDIBLE]
01:18:02 Speaker 2: I told you the main parameter is that it should be [INAUDIBLE] such that [INAUDIBLE]
01:18:05 then low cost won't matter. Right to get the iPhone or to get the Samsung Galaxy type phone.
01:18:15 More costlier than the pocket money that [INAUDIBLE] get. I mean, they somehow get it anyhow.
01:18:25 They borrow from friend, they add all their pocket monies, and all of them they get their iPhone
01:18:33 or their Samsung Galaxy phone. Because that has created a noise. And that has created royalty to individuals.
01:18:45 Among a French community if you are using iPhone or a Samsung you get special treatment. Wow you have an iPhone..
01:18:58 Wow you have a Samsung Galaxy so people appreciate.
01:18:59 And there will be some kids, or some other students that will be jealous that people have that,
01:19:01 that his friend has an iPhone, and I don't have it. So that jealousy, to feel that royal-ness, people buy the product.
01:19:13 And that is more. That is the first thing by which people purchase that product.,
01:19:20 The people who really [INAUDIBLE] are coming into the secondary [INAUDIBLE] that creates a jealousy.
01:19:29 Speaker 2: If a product, if someone is feeling really special, and others are appreciating
01:19:38 and they are feeling jealous that this person has that product, it is creating a wow effect.
01:19:43 Everyone is appreciating wow you have this product. So that jealously will make others to get that product.
01:19:51 I don't know who wins. The company will be [INAUDIBLE] product wins.
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